Talk:Russ Feingold

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April 17, 2007	Good article nominee	Not listed

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nothing short of praising a controversial politician

This article is nothing short of praising a controversial politician. The links are absured....all of them praise the man. The only article that does says anything of particular against the man, actually gives him a good image at the end of the article. I'm going to put in some links that aren't so glowing of the man. Fair is Fair.... Ronsin1976 23:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone erased my link and put another obvious PR0-Feingold on there it is going away. Fair is Fsit...Wikpedia is supposed to have fair standards not heavy biases. Ronsin1976 20:12, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Explain how this article is overly biased. The article is basically a summery of his policy positions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.118.93.107 (talk) 06:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know a whole lot about this politician, but it does seem like the positions listed are the ones that supporters might like posted up here. I'm going to look more into it, it does seem biased from both the links and what of his record is posted on here. I wouldn't go so far as to say that this article is meant to praise a controversial politician though. Perhaps we should look into this more? Abdishtar (talk) 17:14, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: "The only article that does says anything of particular against the man, actually gives him a good image at the end of the article. I'm going to put in some links that aren't so glowing of the man. Fair is Fair...." there being true good things on the page does not justify putting an equal amount of false bad things on the page. in other words, fair is not unfair, and unfair is not fair. and it is not "all is fair in love and war." -- this is neither love nor war. when it comes to information, one and only one thing is fair: the truth. which -- believe it or not -- often is one-sided. the fair standard for wikipedia is: due weight and verifiability. that does NOT mean treating both sides as if they were equal, esp. when they, in fact, are not. it means following wikipedia standards and policies and applying them equally and without prejudice to each piece of information, regardless of what the end result turns out to be. Kevin Baas^talk 18:14, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually to be honest, there's a difference between having 10 pro sources and none that are critical. Most politicans do at least have a few critical vertifiable sources, Feinstein did also. Ronsin1976 19:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ronsin1976, if you insist on Commenting, please at least try to get the man's name right. It's not Feinstein. It's Feingold. Younggoldchip (talk) 21:30, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ideology

Feingold is widely seen as liberal. I've added the Poole-Rosenthal rating which has him the #1 liberal in the Senate for several years running. As noted here, "... voteview.com, created by a University of California at San Diego professor named Keith Poole.... uses an extremely rigorous methodology for ordering Senators from most liberal to most conservative". See also here where it is noted that "The system used in that study, developed by Poole and political science professor Howard Rosenthal, has become widely used and cited among political scientists (see here for a list of academic studies that have utilized the Poole-Rosenthal system to evaluate legislative votes in both the U.S. and other countries). The Poole-Rosenthal ratings have several advantages... most notably that the former use every non-unanimous vote cast by every legislator to determine his or her relative ideology..."Bdell555 (talk) 23:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poole-Rosenthal is considered flawed by many, who feel that it is based on an a priori assumption of mono-dimensional politics. Libertarians, fiscally-conservative social democrats, Christian socialists, fundamentalist pacifists: such persons do not exist in the universe this Procrustean bed "measures"! --Orange Mike | Talk 23:49, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OrangeMike makes a good point. "Feingold is widely seen as a liberal" is not reason to tag him as such in his article. You're throwing around flawed thinking fueled by your own personal opinion. This is not what Wikipedia is for.

This "Ideological Rankings" section is outrageously POV. It needs to be taken out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.230.226.85 (talk) 05:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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"ruled out" :
- [[Milwaukee Journal Sentinel]]. [http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=529983 Feingold rules out 2008 run for president]. [[November 11]], [[2006]].
- [[Milwaukee Journal Sentinel]]. http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=529983 Feingold rules out 2008 run for president. [[November 11]], [[2006]].

DumZiBoT (talk) 01:29, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I say keep in the Ideological

The majority of this article is a puff-piece designed to promote a sitting Senator, with obvious aspirations for the Presidency. If such things as his "garage door" are allowed, then the pro-and-con rankings by both Liberal and Conservative groups should stay. No politician should be allowed to pose on both sides of an idelogical scale. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfoofnik (talk • contribs) 03:43, 22 February 2009

I don't know how to properly format the correction, but the link concerning promises he made in his 1992 campaign is broken. It can be found on the way-back-machine, here. http://web.archive.org/web/20080507201907/http://www.russfeingold.org/promiseskept.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.146.235.67 (talk) 04:12, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not a former Senator

First of all, as of my writing this Feingold is only the projected loser of the Wisconsin Senate race, not the official loser. He has not "been defeated," he has "been projected to have lost."

Furthermore, he is NOT A FORMER SENATOR! He is still in office until at least January, including a lame-duck session of Congress, so he is still very much a current U.S. Senator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.237.228.220 (talk) 03:14, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He's certainly still a Senator. I'll correct the lede to state that Senator Feingold is the projected loser. His team are pointing out that there are 500,000 votes from the Milwaukee and Dane counties to count, and as of writing this 57% of the precincts are in, so it's not completely over. But barring a recount, which could happen, Senator Feingold has two months left in the Senate, for this election cycle at least. --Jatkins ^{(talk - contribs)} 03:32, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not succeeded yet

Russ Feingold will not be officially succeeded until January 3, 2011. Therefore, any edits reflecting his departure from the Senate should not be made until then. --Gb supernova (talk) 18:56, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Critical issues not representative.

Numerous sourcing for criticisms that basically center around feather bedding;

Did Russ Feingold form 'his own political group to pay himself and his staff millions'?

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/nov/03/republican-party-wisconsin/did-russ-feingold-form-his-own-political-group-pay/

As stated in another talk section, a balance to the promo BLP is may be in order.

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