Talk:York University

Proposed merge with York University Faculty of Health

University department section fits better in university's own article, rather than separately. Tacyarg (talk) 21:24, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose - While this page needs much better sourcing and formatting, it is independently notable from the university. Isingness (talk) 23:43, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
• Merge or improve - the Faculty of Health article is seriously short of citations, to the extent that it would probably not survive an AfD without a major face-lift. It could be that such a face-lift is possible, in which case that would be an alternative to merging. It can't stand separately in its current form though. Zero^talk 00:42, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
• Merge or improve. I had independently come to the same conclusion as User:Zero0000. Narky Blert (talk) 14:03, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - subject meets notability criteria. Other faculties have their articles (Business, Glendon, Engineering and Law) and other subject lower on the hierarchy and less-known have their articles: such as Las Nubes Rainforest Preserve or Robarts Centre for Canadian Studies. On the other hand, the article could use more well-sourced information.--Jetam2 (talk) 11:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Transit section removal

This was removed as "advertorial". It seems to me to be both relevant and useful information that it would be quite likely many readers would come to this article specifically in search of. I can see thinking it would be more appropriate to the Keele Campus article, but to get rid of it altogether seems over the top. 207.107.159.242 (talk) 23:11, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

I think it can be kept, but all promotionalism should be excised before re-adding similar content. Isingness (talk) 00:43, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Possible Addition to Controversies Section

I think this article about a York University faculty member being fired for anti-Semitic social media posts is relevant and should be included. This individual is not a student, but a faculty member of York University. Therefore his actions represent the university as he is employed by them. Does anyone agree or disagree with including this article? Input is welcome.

Thanks for opening the discussion! As you can see from my edits, I am opposed to including this information. We have to be very selective about what we include in this article and this seems like just a one-off event without significant or lasting importance for the university. If it develops into something more then of course we can revisit the issue and reconsider it. ElKevbo (talk) 14:58, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

References

Undue weight

@Sportsfan 1234: You reverted my edit of adding antisemitism to student life for being WP:UNDUE. [1] I included about 14 different independent and reliable sources. This is more than literally the entire rest of the student life section. Could you elaborate on your issues so I can address them? Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 00:22, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

this is a useful section to include about this university QQQspadesQQQ (talk) 14:58, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Moving information under Antisemitism section to 2024 Pro-Palestinian protests on University campuses page

The antisemitism section has problems with WP:UNDUE and even WP:POV forking. As comparison, the page for Columbia University has one short paragraph about protests over the Israel-Hamas war. Yet, protests on Columbia University's campuses have been - and continue to be - covered numerously in the media. I propose that part of the Antisemitism section, especially parts related to the Israel-Hamas war, be moved to 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses, where it is more appropriate.Pillarfog (talk) 20:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

@Pillarfog: The claims of antisemitism at York University dates back over a decade before the current conflict. In fact, only one part of that section (the January 2024 letter from CUPE 3903) even occurred in 2024. Since the 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses article cover events from April 2024 onwards, I'm not sure how this fits in there, especially given that York University doesn't even have an encampment.

I'm not sure how this is WP:UNDUE either. I could understand that claim if you felt that there was too much emphasis on recent events, but the section covers antisemitic incidents dating back to 2009. It's a major part of the university's history and reputation.

The comparison with Columbia University doesn't make sense given that York's section isn't about recent protests relating to the Israel-Hamas war but instead about a several events dating back to 2009. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 21:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

The 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses page is redirected from a non-dated Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pro-Palestinian_protests_on_university_campuses&redirect=no) page and therefore parts of the Antisemitism section could apply to 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses. But, the broader issue is that though antisemitism is important and deserving of some mention on the page, it's being given WP:UNDUE weight as it currently stands.

The Antisemitism section is of similar size and prominence on the page as the Notable people section. Having a section this large that impacts the WP:BALANCE of the page is unprecedented in other university pages that I researched. Example: City University of New York. This is a school which has had antisemitism issues covered in mainstream media, but has a more balanced antisemitism section on their page. Also: Concordia University, which is another school that has had antisemitism issues covered prominently in the media, but with nothing mentioned on their page. My recommendation is that the Antisemitism section be reduced to appropriate WP:BALANCE or at the least return it back to the Student life section. Pillarfog (talk) 18:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)