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List of fictional Oxford colleges, List of fictional Cambridge colleges

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What is a fictional college? Please define for ignoramuses like me.

WHAT?! --Monsieur Mero 02:43, Mar 16, 2004 (UTC)

One could add "Baillie College" from the Britcom Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister

  • Surely "Baillie College" is just an abbreviation of "Balliol College", and thus should not be listed as fictional?

Should Cardinal College be on this list? "Cardinal College" is Christchurch College - it's what Christchurch used to be called.

Lewis

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Someone should expand the list by adding named in the 'Lewis' tv series. I just saw 'Southey College' where the place of filming was actually Worcester College. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcummings (talk • contribs) 15:53, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Future of three lists: sources, please

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The three lists List of fictional Oxford colleges, List of fictional Cambridge colleges and List of fictional Oxbridge colleges were proposed for deletion at AfD in July 2024, and kept, shortly after List of fictional British and Irish universities was AfD'd and kept with a consensus to move it to List of fictional universities and globalise it. (See Oxford, Cambridge, Oxbridge AfDs). But along the way, I made the following proposal:

I suggest that instead of deleting this trio of lists, we should:
  1. Keep them
  2. Tag them as {{More citations needed}}
  3. Add a note on their talk pages pinging editors who have contributed to them over the years, alerting them to the fact that the list is inadequately sourced and may risk deletion (I hereby offer to add such notes if the lists survive this AfD)
  4. Wait a year. (Why not? There is no deadline, and Wikipedia is not damaged by the existence of these lists) This will allow occasional editors to be alerted to the situation and given a chance to improve the lists. (It seems likely that some of the editors who have contributed to the list spend much more time reading books than editing Wikipedia.)
If after 12 months the lists do not appear to be worth keeping as standalones, bring them back to AfD or merge their sourced content to List of fictional universities, perhaps as a separate section.

So, as promised, I will now ping those editors who seem to have contributed substantially to any of those 3 lists, gleaned from the non-IP, non-bot, editors in the lists at https://xtools.wmcloud.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/List_of_fictional_Cambridge_colleges and its equivalents. @Smb1001, Jnestorius, Opera hat, Iceaxejuggler, Theladyphilosopher, Robina Fox, Willtee, Helomontana, B00P, Paul A, Rmcf28, Daibhid C, Scatchpole, Vanish2, Lexiconius, Dedalus25, Stephencronin23, Stephenb, Jrleighton, NameisRon, Vanish2, Abaca, Hug0999, Anotherwikipedian, Anirvan, Opera hat, Bgwhite, Rich Farmbrough, Bilorv, Nclm, NotMucToSay, The Yeti, Camboxer, Zythe, Speminallium, Suriname0, Alvin, Ehrenkater, Rygbi7777, Ringsjöodjuren, ET72, Jonathan A Jones, and Omasset Benzlock:. ie anyone who appears to have contributed >1% to any of the 3 lists (curiously only a couple of you have contributed to more than one list - I expected more overlap). If you would like to see these lists survive, please add some sources for the unsourced content. Thanks. I'll add a note to the other two lists but without the pings, so you don't all get pinged three times. PamD 19:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And here are the pings for the editor names I mistyped on that first pass: @Omassey, Benzlock, NotMuchToSay, NameIsRon, Hugo999, and Hellomontana:. Sorry about that. PamD 20:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Pam. I have now looked at the three AfDs, and I agree with virtually everything you said there.
It was claimed that the articles are poorly sourced and difficult to verify. I totally disagree with that. The lists show the works of fiction in which the colleges appear. These are acceptable sources (it is difficult to see how one could improve on them) and they enable verification. It is totally unnecessary to do more work on the sources. It was also claimed that there is a lack of notability. Obviously some of these works of fiction are more notable than others, but a large number of them are well-known works (which have their own Wikipedia article).---Ehrenkater (talk) 21:13, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great plan. I fully support an eventual merger. Suriname0 (talk) 18:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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