Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Describe a Room Game
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- Delete, not encyclopedic. ~leif 21:29, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, this is an actual surrealist game.
- Comment: That vote by an IP, but not the page author. Andrewa 07:49, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. An actual surrealist game that is nowhere described online other than in Wikipedia mirrors. Does it perhaps have another name? Or has it simply never been discussed online? --jpgordon {gab} 21:49, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Wile E. Heresiarch 04:36, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Absurd. - Nunh-huh 04:40, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Isn't this an evaluation of the game rather than whether there should be an article on it? --Daniel C. Boyer 12:56, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- No. It's a vote. Delete is a vote. The game itself is not clever enough to be "absurd". - Nunh-huh 20:04, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delete is clearly a vote, but I am just trying to get some clarification on what you mean by "absurd." What is absurd about the article? --Daniel C. Boyer 22:56, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- No. It's a vote. Delete is a vote. The game itself is not clever enough to be "absurd". - Nunh-huh 20:04, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Isn't this an evaluation of the game rather than whether there should be an article on it? --Daniel C. Boyer 12:56, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Nonsense. --Jll 12:23, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. --Daniel C. Boyer 12:56, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to
Surrealism, perhaps in a new "Surrealist games" sectionSurrealist games, for which additional content could be drawn from Exquisite corpse, [1], [2], and maybe [3]. This game doesn't seem to have enough popularity or influence for its own article, but as long as it's real, mentioning it in the broader article seems reasonable. —Triskaideka 16:35, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)- As long as it's real? One could make up any number of games and they would be "real", but they would not be notable enough to be included in an encyclopedia. ~leif 22:31, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- To elaborate: as long as it's really played by at least a moderate number of real surrealists, or really mentioned in some surrealist literature. Of course the notability requirement still applies, but I think it's a little lower when a subject is just being mentioned in a broader article and not getting its own. Regarding your comment below, I didn't find the Surrealist games article earlier—though in my defense, I did look for a link to it on Surrealism and Exquisite corpse, both of which should have one, and did a search for Surrealist game, which would be the correct form—but you're right that that article is the better place for this subject. As for evidence of whether it's just one person's spontaneous invention, I don't think we've (or at least I've) seen enough to say either way. I'm casting my vote based on the nature of the article's subject, and not on its content. If this article were merged with Surrealist games, one could certainly raise a challenge about its validity on Talk:Surrealist games, and remove the information after a certain length of time if no evidence can be discovered. —Triskaideka 23:19, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- As long as it's real? One could make up any number of games and they would be "real", but they would not be notable enough to be included in an encyclopedia. ~leif 22:31, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Unless there's a lot to say about it, merge and redirect to
Surrealismsurrealist games. --Goblin 21:42, Oct 14, 2004 (UTC)- The Surrealism article already has too much specifics about non notable subjects. Please do not merge this into the Surrealism article. If merged anywhere, it could go into surrealist games, but I have seen no claim that this game has even been played, the way it's described here, by anyone besides the person who posted the article. Wikipedia is not one's personal notebook. ~leif 22:31, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I didn't check if there was a surrealist games article, but you're right. --Goblin 01:50, Oct 15, 2004 (UTC)
- The Surrealism article already has too much specifics about non notable subjects. Please do not merge this into the Surrealism article. If merged anywhere, it could go into surrealist games, but I have seen no claim that this game has even been played, the way it's described here, by anyone besides the person who posted the article. Wikipedia is not one's personal notebook. ~leif 22:31, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Unverifiable. — Gwalla | Talk 00:12, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Keep or M/R to Surrealist games —siroχo 00:22, Oct 15, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. I have a "sense" that this article is "utter nonsense". Denni☯ 02:35, 2004 Oct 15 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I just don't see how it's a game, nor do I believe that it's ever actually played. I guess it's sort of a pity we don't have an Index of lame conversational tools for the bored and pretentious. If there's any evidence of notability than I could be persuaded to change my vote, but until then I have to say delete. -R. fiend 03:45, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect to surrealist games. There is evidence that this game is actually "played," so to speak, by surrealists. Posiduck 10:37, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Where is the evidence? Please, don't let the VfD notice stop you from adding to the article if you have more information ~leif