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Parentage

According to [1] and [2], he had a Swedish grandparent, but what is the source for his parents being Swedish? Fleminra 08:43, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

What about his role in creating the nuclear ballistic submarine? Jigen III 19:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unaware he had one. You mean Rickover? Trekphiler 08:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ADM Burke gave the directions to build the Strategic Weapons System. VADM William Raborn was director of the program that built the missile system, who reported to Burke and the Secretary of the Navy, a similar level to Rickover. --Mtnerd 21:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He flew many combat missions.

Is this for real? It's in the World War II section, and comes after statements that he commanded destroyer squadrons before being promoted to commodore and moved to carriers. Seems strange that there's no mention of any pilot training in the section on his earlier life, and seems strange that a naval aviator would command destroyer squadrons... Burtonpe 16:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted that. I'm unaware he got his wings, & I suspect somebody mistook his role as TF58 escort commander for a flying position. I also deleted "relatively minor command positions"; command of a desron isn't minor. He was only a Captain at the time... Trekphiler 08:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CNO Terms

I was looking at this, and the section on his terms as CNO is very incomplete.--Mtnerd 21:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I thought so too, so I added some words. It's unsourced and to some extent opinion, but SOMETHING had to be put in. Anyone who wants to add more should do so. Bigmac31 (talk) 22:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Date correction

in the Pacific War from 15 December 1945 to 15 May 1945...THIS IS WRONG - I don't know enough to fix but it's minus 6 months —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.229.227.31 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Correction has been made and citations referenced. — ERcheck (talk) 02:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Epitaph

--96.25.37.75 (talk) 01:01, 9 August 2011 (UTC)"according to his wishes, his headstone simply bears a one word epitaph, Sailor."[reply]

A photograph of his tombstone further down in the article) refutes this statement96.25.37.75 (talk) 01:01, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dates of Rank?

Anyone know? This is often included in these types of articles. - ^theWOLFchild 04:02, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Commissioning Photograph

When you open the photograph of the commissioning of the USS Arleigh Burke in 1991 in a new tab the caption is different to the caption on this page and appears to incorrectly refer to Arleigh Burke as "third from the right". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dora Domino (talk • contribs) 05:32, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Nickname

I recently read in JE Smith's authoritative biography of Eisenhower (published 2012) that this was the origin of the nickname: “During World War Two, Burke mistakenly led his destroyer squadron into a Japanese minefield. Admiral Halsey radioed to ask what he was doing in a Japanese minefield. ‘Thirty-one knots,’ replied Burke” P660. The article quoting the NY Times obituary has a different story. Can anyone clarify this? UncleKenneth (talk) 07:03, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My Dad told me the story went that the natives had built outhouses on the end of rickety docks and when Burke went charging down the channel at 31 knots, the wake knocked them over like dominoes. That may have been just crew humor but he was there. 2600:100B:B13D:94D3:0:19:B309:5D01 (talk) 04:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple Legacy Sections

Methinks there should only be one section on his legacy and the two sections that currently exist should probably be combined into one. 73.88.58.38 (talk) 19:48, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done - wolf 04:28, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Medals

The medals layout shown is not one that he wore on active duty, but includes both items he wore on his uniform (but in a different order), plus honors earned later. It would seem better to have a display of awards matching his final four star photos (plus the additional star for his final DSM presented by Kennedy), then a separate rack for those he earned later.

Sort of like done on this page: https://arleighburkeassociation.org/burke-top/. (although it appears to be missing a star on the National Defense Service Medal).

Also, the order shown does not match the order he wore them. Whether or not it is the correct order, seems it should match how he wore them.

Thoughts?

DesertBoat (talk) 03:10, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What order do you think the medals should be in? And do you have another source other than the association page? - wolf 03:44, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at any of his pictures while CNO, you see the order he wore his ribbons. Best is maybe one of the formal portraits, like this one: https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/our-collections/photography/us-people/b/burke-arleigh-a-formal-portraits.html. There are others in that same collection.

And a US service member would not wear the post service awards from Japan and Norway as ribbons, but as the formal sashes and devices.

Pragmatically - what is the precedence order when you add the Medal of Freedom, plus the Japan and Norway awards? I suspect the Medal of Freedom would be right after the highest combat award (Legion of Merit), but placing the other two would be totally arbitrary.

I think it is incorrect to show a ribbon rack that the subject never, and prolly never would wear. Seems to be a made-up history.

DesertBoat (talk) 14:04, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've adjusted the rack & table to correspond with the latest images of Burke in the Navy ref. You may find on some bios that the subject's awards, (whether in a rack & table format or just a straight list), are all added together in order or precedence, but I've seen some bios do it this as well, so I'm ok either way. - wolf 00:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]