Talk:Phone connector (audio)

History

I was surprised by a lack of a "Decline" section, considering their modern unavailability in many general consumer devices capable of playing audio, ranging from smartphones to some modern audio players. Perhaps someone familiar with the topic could add this? Gangweedersriseup (talk) 08:15, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Done. See Phone connector (audio)#Decline section in History which links to a couple other sections discussing this a bit. Em3rgent0rdr (talk) 18:47, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Comparison image with 4.4mm balanced jack

Current image

• 2.5 mm (1⁄10 in) mono (TS)
• 3.5 mm (1⁄8 in) mono (TS)
• 3.5 mm (1⁄8 in) stereo (TRS)
• 6.35 mm (1⁄4 in) stereo (TRS)

Proposed new image

• 2.5mm TRS + 3.5mm TRS
• 3.5mm TRS
• 4.4mm balanced
• 6.35mm TRS

The current connector comparison image lacks the 4.4mm balanced jack, which is, as of 2023, now standard across all prosumer and professional audio equipment that offers/requires a balanced audio signal. I've taken a new photo that also includes the 4.4mm jack, however I've been unable to find any standalone 2.5mm TRS plugs anywhere in my house, apart from a Baofeng data cable. Any thoughts or suggestions? --benlisquare_T•C•E 12:06, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

We don't say much about this connector in the article so I'm not sure how important this update is. The old image shows some simple TS options which is nice. ~Kvng (talk) 23:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Replace almost all "jack" with "socket"

In common usage, the word "jack" has confusingly too often been used to refer to the plug, even though it originally meant the female connector. "Socket" however hasn't been corrupted. So, I think jack should be avoided in this article. Except for "other uses" and the historical section talking about the origin from "jack-knife", this article should stick to using "socket" as much as possible. Em3rgent0rdr (talk) 10:19, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

I was concerned that phone jack is the WP:COMMONNAME and phone socket might not be a familiar term but I've done some quick image searches and determined that this change is unlikely to introduce additional confusion. ~Kvng (talk) 23:58, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Design section needs to be rearranged

The design section is currently a messy arrangement...this is how it looks on my desktop:

I'm thinking maybe the A, B, C, D images can instead be placed inside a Table as one column and have their name as another column and their description in another column. That will help to be able to refer to the thing being discussed when its caption is near the image. And maybe move that into the section discussing springs. And the Tip-Ring-Sleeve image can probably be moved up to earlier section, maybe in history as it can be a picture of the modern standard. And then maybe this "Design" section will become too small that it can just be renamed "Cleaning contacts" or something, cause that is what it talks about. Em3rgent0rdr (talk) 19:10, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Broken reference in Design section

Reference 79, to "Jack Schematics Table" PDF is broken. It points to http://www.switchcraft.com/documents/jack_schematics.pdf

I don't know which was the content of the original document but I bet it can be the PDF it is now available on https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/393/Jack_Schematics-310971.pdf since the document itself is marked as coming form Switchcraft. Anyway this PDF seems a reasonable reference to replace the broke one, even in the case it is not the same document.

I am quite new in editing Wikipedia so I ask if I can proceed in replacing the reference. Menegoz (talk) 15:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I've just fixed by digging up the original pdf from archive.org and editing the citation to point to archive.org's copy. Thanks for reporting this dead link. Em3rgent0rdr (talk) 15:59, 1 February 2024 (UTC)