Talk:Rhineland

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Map

I threw in a quickie map more or less of the region. If you can find something better, please replace it - I just tossed it together with GMT and photoshop, and it is not meant to be permanent. Unfortunately, my artistic skills are too limited to make a really decent one and I couldn't find a good (free) map in the few minutes I spent looking. Demonbug 00:28, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Karolrvn (talk • contribs) 23:23, 23 January 2010 (UTC) I propose to put a map that would (better) demonstrate location of Rhineland in relation to world/Europe/France/Germany. I think that's one of the first things a reader wants to know (as it was in my case). One candidate i found: http://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plik:Rhineland.jpg&filetimestamp=20070127000727 . Note that I am not experienced in editing wikipedia articles so please guide me a little on what to do and not to do, TIA. Karolrvn (talk) 23:22, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Geography, Culture

The definition of Rhineland here is confusing. At times the article suggests it comprises only the formerly Prussian territories (which are "overwhelmingly Catholic"), at others, it includes the (formerly Bavarian) Palatinate (Protestant majority) and territories east of the Rhine (e.g. Wiesbaden, which belongs to Hesse). I think the post-1918 demilitarization estended to all territories west and 50 km east of the Rhine. Maybe as good a definition as any. But that would make it culturally more heterogeneous than is suggested.--Humphrey20020 19:02, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Game References

The computer game Freelancer is set in a futuristic world with various factions modeled after present-day countries. One of the factions is called "Rhineland", modeled after Germany.

The article New York City doesn't mention that there is such a city at SimCity, so what has the above to do with the region?

Yup, the article seems to suggest that Dutch/Belgian vs German boundaries existed already in Roman times. If you extend the history of an area back in time, do the same for the bounderies. 88.159.69.126 (talk) 19:15, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article is offensive

The opening sentance alarmed me greatly. Jovial does refure to homosexuality, I don't like how this refures to the wrong side jovially. We need to replace it with a differnt word.

"The Rhineland (Rheinland in German) is the general name for the land on both sides of the river Rhine in the west of Germany, although some consider the lands to the east of the river culturally distinct, jovially referring to them as Schäl Sick; the "bad" or "wrong side"."

While I do not think that that part of the article helps much, I know of no connection between joviality and homosexuality unless, like 'gay', the word has been appropriated by a particular group. I think it very unlikely that the word was used with the intention of giving offence and I think none should be taken. 'Jovial' means 'of the character of Jove or Jupiter'; fröhlich. (RJP 17:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Malmedy

The cantons of Eupen, Malmedy and Sankt Vith though entirely German in culture and language became the East Cantons of Belgium. This needs to be slightly rephrased. Eupen and Sankt Vith are culturally German, Malmedy is culturally French. Indisciplined 22:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are more such cases a fat century earlier when parts of e.g. Jülich were added to the NL to make the already Dutch parts continuous. These are Dutchified now, but weren't in the 19th century. The whole article never questions current boundaries, but pulls in all kinds of historic perspectives, event back to Roman times. 88.159.69.126 (talk) 19:18, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right bank

One sentence in the article reads, "The Rhineland (Rheinland in German) is the general name for the land on both sides of the river Rhine in the west of Germany." Another sentence reads, "The River Rhine forms the region's eastern boundary..." So, is the right bank of the Rhine (the eastern bank) in the Rhineland or not? Poldy Bloom 19:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ashkenazi Jews

Ashkenazi Jews, also known as Ashkenazic Jews or Ashkenazim (Hebrew: אַשְׁכֲּנָזִים, [ˌaʃkəˈnazim] sing. [ˌaʃkəˈnazi]; also יְהוּדֵי אַשְׁכֲּנָז, Yehudei Ashkenaz, "the Jews of Ashkenaz"), are descended from the medieval Jewish communities of the Rhineland. Ashkenaz is the Medieval Hebrew name for the region which later formed the country of Germany. Thus Ashkenazi Jews are literally "German Jews." From medieval times the lingua franca among Ashkenazi Jews was Yiddish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.223.138 (talk) 15:13, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

very poor article

this article smacks of mistakes and is in urgent need of improvement. i advise anyone who is able ot look into german wikipedia.Sundar1 (talk) 13:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - it's poorly written

Some of the explanations are quite different from the German wikipedia. As a German I'd say "Nice, I didn't know that I live in the Rhineland"(according to the definition given here).The Rhineland is located on the west bank of the Rhine in the Federal States of North-Rhine-Westfalia and Rhineland-Palatinate, but southern Palatinate is usually not included (the Cities and the region south of Ludwigshafen). The best map can be found in the article "Rheinprovinz" [[1]]- this map shows the Prussian Rhine Province (note that Palatinate is not included and that the south west of the Rhine Province is located in the (present-day) German Federal State of Saarland and is also not included).Johnny2323 (talk) 20:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rhineland Campaign

I just added the Market Garden because I am positive that in US Army official history that was the first operation for the campaign. Not sure what the British Army called it. I can provide a reference but its common knowledge I thought.

However, what puzzles me is that the article is supposed to be about the region, right?--Koakhtzvigad (talk) 05:50, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move portions

the history sections for Rhineland and Rhine Province could almost be replaced with each other. I have placed a move-portions-tag into the Rhine Province article (next to the one in Rhineland). dont know what kind of structure is intended, etc.... --ZH2010 (talk) 17:13, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As nobody seems to be interested, I just went ahead and swapped the two history sections. Have to say I dont agree with a lot of the content and Rhine Province has plenty of duplications. ZH2010 (talk) 19:38, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge with West Bank (Rhine)

This territory (=Rhineland) and the term (>>West Bank<<) are pretty much interchangeably and surely cannot be pin-point to a period of 30 or so years (1750-1790? = the time period described). If wikipedia wants to have an article about a territory that has been occupied and eventually annexed, the title should be more specific. --ZH2010 (talk) 10:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree--R-41 (talk) 18:40, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Prussian King"

A Prussian king first set foot on the Rhine in 1609 ... The first King in Prussia was crowned in 1701 and with this started the Kingdom of Prussia. What the author meant was the Elector of Brandenburg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.221.44.45 (talk) 08:46, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rhineland Geography

It's very uncommon to refer to region around the Neckar as Rhineland. The source for this is some guide book that covers the whole Rhine river and is called the Rhineland. I don't think it's a particular good or authoritative source. KLGerads (talk) 16:19, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

French Revolution

The section called "French Revolution" reads as opinionated and has a pro-French, pro-Napoleon bias. E.g. it says "The French swept away centuries worth of outmoded restrictions and introduced unprecedented levels of efficiency." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.255.236.207 (talk) 05:36, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]