Talk:Jack O'Neill

Ribbons/Awards

Not only has Jack received the Purple Heart, he has also received the Medal of Honor (Secrets), possibly more than once. Prior to the change in 2 August 2006, Air Force officers were allowed to wear some, all, or none of their ribbons, meaning Jack could have chosen not to wear the ribbons for those particular awards. After the change, the regulations say he should have worn all or none of his ribbons, and would have been required to wear all of them on his service coat (blue sports jacket) (see Air Force Instruction AFI 36-2903 for proper wear of the Air Force uniform). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonnydays15 (talk • contribs) 21:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

82.3.105.86 (talk) 11:10, 1 March 2008 (UTC)Hi Jack did not get the Medal of Honor, both him and Sam Carter recieved the airforce medal in Secrets. the only Medal of Honor acknowledged on Stargate was awarded to Col Cameron Mitchel for his participation in the battle of antartica. I think we should remove the references to the Medal of Honor.

I put the existing ribbons into a nicer table and referenced all of them. I also removed references to the Medal of Honor, as I agree with the anonymous commenter above. According to my recollections, neither one of them was awarded the CMOH. -- Dunee (talk) 16:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, it had been mentioned several times in the series that O'Neill had been a POW during the Gulf War, but he does not display the DoD Prisoner of War Medal. This may be a conscious decision on the characters part, as it's probably not something he wants to "relive"....BruceWiley (talk) 22:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

For Crying Out Loud

what's the deal with Jack O'Neill saying "for crying out loud" all the time? I've just started the series and am about 15 episodes in. he says it almost every episode. just wondering if anyone knows if it's some inside joke or something? SnaX (talk) 21:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, It's an inside joke like teal'c saying "indeed" all the time. and Please add new discussion to the bottom of the talk page. Peachey88 ^{(Talk Page | Contribs)} 08:21, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

His Name

His name given at the end of the credits in the original film is Jonathan "Jack O'Neil, however in "Entity" and "Fragile Balance", it's shown on an ID card/On screen military profile that his name is John J. O'Neill. John and Jonathan are separate names, and are related only by a coincidence. http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=31702 --- Read through this thread for more info... (I know it was posted 2 years ago...) Jedi Master Bra'tac (talk) 19:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I do know that "John" is a common nickname for "Jonathan", but I would expect that his badge would have "Jonathan" written out even if that were the case. Even so I wouldn't read too much into it as it is probably just one of those minor goofs that comes up in TV writing. Children of the Gods pretty well establishes that Kurt Russell's character and RDA's character are one and the same even with these minor differences. If I remember correctly, they do make fun of the whole "O'Neil vs. O'Neill" thing in Secrets, so TPTB are aware that details like these fell through the cracks.Thinkbui (talk) 22:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

John is not a common nickname for Jonathan. This is incorrect, John and Jonathan are totally unrelated names. If you were a Jonathan and wanted to go by "John" you'd spell it Jon. Despite the similarities they're completely different names with completely different origins. It is not a goof, the extra "L" was to make the name closer to the Irish, and in Ireland John is a common name and Jack is a common shorthand for John, not Jonathan.

Again - read through the thread Jedi Master Bra'tac (talk) 18:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't be so quick to say that it is not. While the names John and Jonathan have very different origins (John being Swedish and Hebrew and Jonathan being a separate Hebrew name) with Jon being the traditional nickname for both of them, it's not fair to the Jonathans who actually choose to add the 'h' in their nicknames to say that Jon is the only real nickname for Jonathan and John is only a proper name and doesn't exist as a nickname without verifying that to be true. If you're really convinced that they don't exist, you might want to try Googling Jonathan "John" with the quotation marks. I am by no stretch an etymologist and it may be true that Jon is far more common than John as nicknames, but I don't think J Ragals, J Galutia, and the wife of the late Dr. J Kew would agree that John isn't a nickname for Jonathan and this argument can be extended to Jack as well if you do a similar search.
What I mean by "goofs" and "fell through the cracks" doesn't necessarily mean it was unintentional. I should have made that clearer. I generally use that to mean any discontinuity lacking a contextual explanation. Ex: Creek Mountain vs. Cheyenne Mountain fell through the cracks as it was never explained why the difference in the context of the show, though there are obvious logistical reasons.
I tend to avoid pop culture forums as many tend to have hyped discussions based on rumor and questionable integrity only to have that smashed as untrue, but if you are truly convinced there's real meaty stuff on the GW forums, please convince me I'm wrong. Nothing against you personally, but I'm a skeptic by nature and require evidence.Thinkbui (talk) 19:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

If they changed the spelling of his last name between the film and the TV series, it's reasonable for them to change his first name too. I think it's clear from the evidence that in the film he's called Jonathan and in the TV series he's called John. --Tango (talk) 20:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

In the thread they're 2 screenshots from different episodes confirming his name is John, a discussion about John/Jonathan, and Darren Sumner's reason for not changing it on GW. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.42.137 (talk) 08:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Events of the 1994 film

Wasn't it a completely different character? I don't see why this is in there. The 1337 (talk) 16:15, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Moved to bottom of page It's clearly intended to be the same character. The first episode of SG-1 makes it perfectly clear, and plenty of references in the rest of the series do too. They decided to change the name slightly, that's all. --Tango (talk) 16:31, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

But his personality is different in the movie also. The 1337 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 00:36, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

He'd just suffered the death of his son, that's going to make anyone more serious, isn't it? --Tango (talk) 18:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Richard Dean Anderson agreed to take the part of Jack O'Neill on the condition that he was allowed to be more humorous than Russell had been. That is where the joke of Anderson saying "two 'L's, there's another colonel O'Neil with no sense of humour" comes from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.225.100 (talk) 20:17, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about that, but it certainly is in line with dealing with Jack's "emotional dysfunction" very early on in the series to give RDA the freedom to make him a more comical character after that. These changes are briefly referenced in season 7's "Fallen" when Daniel is slowly regaining his memory.Thinkbui (talk) 22:19, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

article error...

i dont know about you but the episode small victories the O'neill was NOT destroyed by the replicators. it was destroyed by the self destruct while it was in hyper space in order to destroy three replicator controled ships. the plan was thought up by major carter.Hawkey131 (talk) 15:23, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

True, it was sacrificed to destroy the replicators rather than actually being destroyed by the replicators. --Tango (talk) 18:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Jack's job in the Air Force

Here is something that's bothered me for a while, what exactly did Jack do in the Air Force before joining the SGC? We know he was in special operations, so that leaves Combat Controller, PJ, TACCOM, and combat weatherman. Assuming we can eliminate PJ and weatherman, that leaves Combat controller, and TACCOM, and judging by the episode where we saw his unit in action in Germany, that would seem to verify this train of logic. But this still leaves the question of why he seems to be the one who ends up flying all the exciting, experimental, multimillion dollar aircraft —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.103.217 (talk) 06:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it bothers me too. They seem to use pilots as ground forces a lot, which seems very strange to me (it's not just Jack, Carter is a pilot, Sheppard is, Lorne has been seen to fly F-302's, Mitchell is a pilot). I'm not sure why the Air Force runs the SGC in the first place, the work they're doing should mainly be done by the Army or Marines. I'm not very familiar with the US armed forces, but if the USAF is anything like the RAF, their ground troops should be pretty much restricted to defending air fields. --Tango (talk) 15:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

The USAF has their own forward ground forces that basically do what the SGC airmen do. It isn't anywhere to the scale of that of the Army or Marine Corps, but they have them since the branches of the US military can't always engage in joint ventures with each other. If this weren't the case, the USAF Entertainment Dept wouldn't be signing off on all the shows' scripts since their goal is to make the USAF portrayed as realistically has possible.Thinkbui (talk) 00:27, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Well it obviously would fall under Air Force jurisdiction because they are venturing out into space and other planets. Air Force Security Forces not only fulfill the job of providing boots on the ground, but also the role of MP, something the show portrays pretty consistently--remember all the guards you see getting tossed around? It's worth noting that as the series advanced, you also saw other branches coming into play, particularly in Stargate Atlantis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.103.217 (talk) 06:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Among other reasons, the Air Force is a likely candidate for command of the SGC as in 1950's America it was the USAF who was primarily tasked with investigating UFOs

And Cheyenne Mountain was operated by the USAF in real life. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 18:41, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

new information

I watched episodes here and there in the past. Decided to watch them from the start in order. s01e06: apparently he's irish. Someone should stick that in somewhere. came across it around 15:00 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.212.154 (talk) 21:28, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Untitled

“Well, there’s that.” - O’Neill’s go-to saying in seasons 5 and further. So much so that it seems to become his signature reaction in situations uncomfortable to him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.72.171 (talk) 03:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Broken Citation Archive

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