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External Links

Hello,

I´ve re-added the External link - *Photo Collection - Show de Tango na Argentina - to the external links. Some people have been deleting this entrance from the Wikipedia directory with no rights to do it. It´s a beautiful collection of pictures, not comercial and not promotional. If you want to remove, let´s discuss it before ok?

dbrunod —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbrunod (talk • contribs) 16:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a collection ofg weblinks. It is encyclopedia, and it needs encyclopedic text. People may easily find plenty of beautiful pictures themselves. Please see "what wikipedia is not". Mukadderat (talk) 21:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

"Wikipedia is not a collection ofg weblinks" - I agree, but when removing or posting a weblink, we need to be fair with the reader. There are plenty of self-described "article owners" that provilege certain types of content and links for their own sake, not thinking about the reader. Now it looks ok, since ALL other weblinks are gone as well. —Preceding dbrunod comment added by 200.198.125.185 (talk) 21:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Removal of link to "Nuevo Tango" article on "Tango nuevo" subsection

Hello! I would just like to point out that there's hardly any direct connection between the tango nuevo style of dancing, which is the fusion of the tango dance with principles from contact improvisation, and the Nuevo Tango, which is a music movement inside tango music initially proposed by Ástor Piazzolla that infuses tango music with classical and jazz elements. I understand that both terms sound and seem more or less the same, but in Spanish, they are not. The Nuevo Tango movement, among its guidelines, had the explicit intention of creating music that should not be socially danced (Piazzolla said on one occasion that he would make the dancers listen to music). The Nuevo Tango article in itself should be changed too, because Nuevo Tango and tango nuevo seem be very often mistakenly mixed up. Rafaelomondini (talk) 09:09, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

tango to Tango (dance)

Hello 195.92.67.66,

Hello! Tango is african in origin. it was just music and dance and the dance was performed by two males that with rivalry tried to compete for the best dance. This style was perfomed originally by blacks and as ever whites copied it and claimed as invented by them. Please investigate more about this and how black slaves were wiped out in the ethnic cleansing that took place in argentina. Wikipedia should be compromised by the thruth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.139.249.12 (talk) 18:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Tango is as African as galliard, passepied, or tarantella. Your comment makes a number of highly doubtful claims while providing no sources at all. Furthermore, I find your racism against white people to be quite frankly disgusting and very inappropriate for an encyclopedia. --190.19.18.114 (talk) 06:27, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Creating the Tango (dance) page and moving the text from tango was a good idea, but the way you did it you left the page history attached to tango, which is a pity. By the look of it, you copied and pasted the orginal text into a new edit window. If however you had used the Move this page command on the lefthand menu bar, it would have copied both the original tango page and the accompanying history and talk pages to the new destination, a far preferable solution. It would have left a #REDIRECT tag in the original page Tango which you could have edited as you saw fit.

-- Viajero 11:19 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Yes, very true. And does not include any info about the music played to signal the dance partners exchange - three songs to dance to, then a fourth to mingle and find a new partner. Perhaps this is "English/Ballroom Tango" only, but being a world-wide convention now, should have an entire section dedicated to it. WinkJunior (talk) 12:45, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

What is tango?

This article does not even include a basic description of what tango is, what the steps are, or how it is danced. It's like having an article on walz that does not mention that it is in 3/4 time! Let's start with some basic information, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.228.148.113 (talk) 07:00, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more, this was the first thing that struck me -- especially since I came to the article primarily to look up the step(s)! While the amount of detail is admirable, the absence of any description of the most basic steps and figures is deplorable. It's as though the article on the internal combustion engine went into great detail about lubricatikn, engine position, and horsepower without ever mentioning pistons, or describing the 2- & 4-stroke cycles.

This is an article about a dance. What could be more essential than the steps & figures? Sure, I can see that there are an immense number of variations, but surely there are one or two basic, canonical sets of steps, at least for the ballroom dance (perhaps US/SA vs UK/international)--the equivalent rhythm is given for the music despite being a gross oversimplification. I know at least one such pattern exists--I was taught it in a beginners' dance class in 1960. An article on a dance without steps is like a recipe without ingredients! --D Anthony Patriarche, BSc (talk) 17:10, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Once somebody adds it (properly sourced), the article will have it! It does seem strange that no one has added it yet, but Wikipedia isn't editorially orchestrated in that way. Largoplazo (talk) 18:39, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Agree on some basic description of the dance being nice. But also just more organization of the article in general. Some sections seems to describe tango from a bird's eye view, and then other dive way deep into very particular detail about a specific variant or time and place.

There needs to be some kind of synthesis and structure here, to place the history, variants and relationships in context. At the moment it feels like a hodge-podge of various writers' facts and trivia about tango that they felt compelled to insert without a lot of thought put into the general thrust or what a casual reader would want or need to know. 192.72.255.31 (talk) 15:13, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Moving a piece

I am going to move this piece

• As a result, the American Tango is believed by some to be inferior, and some American Tango teachers have introduced elements of technique borrowed from the International Tango. In International tango, sequences of figures and even entire dances are choreographed instead of improvised. This makes the dance less dependent on lead-follow technique and allows for more separation between the dancers.

to a more appropriate place, probably to Ballroom dance, since this equally applies to all ballroom dances. Mikkalai 16:56, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)

POV

The following piece is POV, while being a chaotic fighting a wrong windmill:

• While some of the sleezier downtown dance halls served the double purpose of being popular places to find prostitutes, it seems unlikely that the Tango was actually danced in brothels, though this is a common misconception. Because of the shortage of women, in the working-class areas men often danced with other men or with prostitutes.

The real issue not where tango was danced. Of course, it was danced in brothels, just as jitterbug, swing, charleston,polka, can-can, and many other dances. In modern times of "narrow specialists" it could be dificult to imagine that not infrequently brothels could have been "subsidiaries" of multi-profile establishments hostel/tavern/brothel/dance hall. But this is not the real controversy. A significant part of Tango lyrics in these times was about pimps, prostitutes, sex, booze, see e.g., Lunfardo. The question is whether it was a tribute to the exotics of the roots of tango, or it was true reflection of tango "demographics" of the times. Mikkalai 07:29, 8 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Etymology of Tango

There is a possibility that "tango" may come directly from the Latin "tango" meaning "I touch."

• Do you seriously believe the porteños of Buenos Aires spoke the language of Cicero? Mikkalai 04:30, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Very likely. Should be researched! WinkJunior (talk) 12:47, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it's very unlikely that the word "tango" comes from Latin. The scholarly research on the issue has pretty much settled on an African-Spanish etymology, since there are many references of "tangos de negros", describing the dances of the black Argentines and Uruguayans, in official documents in both Argentina and Uruguay by the end of the XIX century - some suggest it's a corruption of the Spanish word "tambor" (meaning "drum"), in a series that goes from "tambor", to "tambo", then eventually "tango". It's important to remember that the tango kept being a marginalized dance/music until the 1920s, when it was taken to Europe (already bearing the name "tango") and came back to the River Plate region with the approval of the European elite. Only then the majority of the Argentine and Uruguayan people felt safe dancing it - before, it would be seen as a sign of one being a lowlife of sorts, which kind of calls into question such a "noble" Latin etymology. Also, the fact that the tango became a closed position dance only after the second half of the XIX century goes against the "tangere" hypothesis, since it means "to touch" in Latin. The tango danced by the black people of the region then had barely no body connection, being the "ombligada" - a moment in which the two dancers touched navel to navel - the only contact that would have happened. If you guys need the sources, just tell me. :) Rafaelomondini (talk) 08:36, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Some problems in chapter "Argentine Tango (Tango Argentino)"

The biggest part of this chapter is wildly biased. I am missing much objectivity in the comparison between argentine tango and ballroom tango. If noone objects I will move this section to a new headline "differences between argentine tango and ballroom tango", trying to morph it into some more objective comparison... dekay 09:12, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I think this article should be re-reseached all together. The Tango was originated in Andalusian (Spain) and migrated to Argentina in the 1500's. The Argentine Tango is now considered a modified version of the Andalusian Tango which was originated more as a music than a dance. Evidence of this Argentine origin of tango is by the fact that the tango dance is composite of African and European styles of dancing. Most info on this can be found on this website: http://www.streetswing.com/histmain/z3andulz.htm

it's written Andalucia

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migrated in the 1500?? that's the biggest uninformed and misconcept POV I ever read of, like Cristombulus Cólon brought the Tango, trapped in cage down below at the Sta. Maria ship?? plus it just ridiculous either way the readers will probably look for footspets, and how-to's rather than the antrophological studies of Mr. professor Whatever.. And thus going all over you site, the figures of "Grease"[[1]] will probably annoy someone, because tango is the national dance of buenos aires, so please read and _think_ before posting stupidities --190.31.12.181 20:47, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Dance etiquette in Argentine tango and ballroom also differs.

What is the etiquette? Whats the difference Jackliddle 18:43, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

In fact is there any? They any pretty polite too me

• Dance Etiquette
• Beyond Dance Etiquette
• yet more

And the Argentian Tango people seem to think

• Argentine Tango Dance Etiquette
• TANGO DANCE ETIQUETTE MADE SIMPLE…

Jackliddle 19:01, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

There is another part of "etiquette" that applies to the argentine version of the dance. It is based the need not to lose one's honor and mostly applies to asking a partner to dance. For example in argentina there is the "cabeceo" (spelling?), a way of asking with looks only - a way that makes sure you never need to hear a "no" as well as never be seen when you are rehected. Other topics of this "etiquette" are based on how to dance on a crowded floor - basically you never touch another couple on the floor and even if you do you try to recover so that your follower never even notices it - all comes down to providing your partner with the most pleasant dance possible. (reasons for this honor code see tango history, argentina history and latino mentality) ;) dekay 09:52, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

OK I see it like this. Argentinian Tango has this non-verbal communication for requesting/denying dances, International Ballroom Tango doesn't have this. The behaviour on a crowded dance floor seems identical between the two. Jackliddle 13:25, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Removed a POV comment from film list about "Shall We Dance" which stated that the original Japanese version was much better.

Hi, I was under the impression that it was fairly concensus already that tango originated from a mix of Uruguayan and Cubam ilfluences, of which the Cuban influences are from Europe. The European dance was something called contra-dance, or counter-dance, which was practiced in Germany, Franch and even in England.

TP

PC Woes

This page (along with many of the dance pages) has truly ludicrous politically correct pronoun usage. How about always using the pronoun "he" for the leader and "she" for the companion, and adding a sentence saying something to the effect of: "Pronouns are used merely for placeholding; the dance leader is not always a man, nor the dance partner a woman."? RiseAbove

Except that it is a tradition in dance that the male leads. And it is not nessecary to pander to every permitation of how the dance is performed. It is perfectably understandable as is, and anyone capable of finding this page can use their brain to determine that the dance need not be between a man and a woman

~Annoymous

Except, in tango, it has long been tradition for there to be swapping of gender roles. Only in the United States was the swapping of gender roles for the dance really frowned upon and it is coming back now. That swapping has given rise to the "queer tango" idea, except there is nothing really new in that and it really isn't a style of tango so much as a continuation of the whole "queer dance" idea. It would be simple to just say "lead" and "follow" everywhere and ditch the whole "he" or "she" use in general. In dance it is often clearer to just say lead and follow anyway.

Maztec (talk) 08:57, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

30 beats per minute?

The Ballroom section says something about the meter being set at 30 beats per minute. That sounds agonizingly slow. Could this perhaps be a mistake for 30 bars per minute (i.e., 120 beats per minute)? --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 22:29, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

You are correct: 28 to 32 bars per minute are the speeds for ballroom competitions. dekay 19:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Tango and Old Spain

I have heard that the Tango is connected to a dance called something like cheeka from Old Spain. If this is true, it may be worth a mention in the article. Eiler7 00:23, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Tango and Montevideo

Is there some reliable source for attributing Montevideo on the same level as Buenos Aires in terms of the history of tango? This seems highly counter to the traditional story of tango's origins, and really ought not stand without some references. taion 04:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps it's not widely known, as people normally thinks Tango to be only from Buenos Aires, but the truth is that the tango is from the Río de la Plata. Now, I'm not going to discuss whether it was born in Montevideo or Buenos Aires, nor if tango in Argentina is more important than in Uruguay, but no one can deny Uruguay its strong Tango identity. For instance La cumparsita was written by an Uruguayan author (though he then moved to Argentina). Argentina is better known because it had a huge number of artists, and a far bigger market. Many Uruguayan musicians moved to Buenos Aires because they had better chances of success there. All this coming from a proud Argentinian... Mariano(t/c) 10:12, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm Argentinian and I know that tango is a mixture of dances of all the immmigrants Waltz, mazurcas etc, so is possible that Spanish immigrants had influenced, but I'm not sure.

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I agree, they can't associate Tango to Montevideo to the same level as Argentina, for the simple fact that Tango, first originated in Buenos Aires, and in that time, Uruguay was part of the portuguese Empire.. It was not even a Nation. Tango first moved to Montevideo, after the Argentina culture penetrated in that country. But as always, you will have some resenthful uruguayans in Wikipedia, trying to suck all our culture. Thats why they claim Gardel as being uruguayan, when he was in fact French. Or the chileans, trying to claim the same level in the Patagonia Article, when in fact, 95% of the Patagonia lies in Argentine territory. It is not fair to have these articles partially affected by nationalism and patriotism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.30.123.183 (talk) 18:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

There are MANY realiable sources linking the tango to Uruguay. For the moment, I suggest reading Historia del Baile, by Sergio Pujol (Ediciones Gourmet Musical), which is a very respected and thorough scholarly research carried out by an Argentine historian - he, being a serious guy, sets aside any hint of nationalism and very clearly shows that the tango origins lie on both sides of the River Plate. For the porteños who have commented before, this book can be easily found in any library and bookstore in Buenos Aires. I bought my copy in one of the Cuspide stores on Corrientes Avenue. Another Argentine scholarly source can be found here. Rafaelomondini (talk) 08:54, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

References

Tango-related article deletion

Please vote Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tango.info (2nd nomination). `'mikka (t) 18:47, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Or, since that one is past already, perhaps this one is a better idea now: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tango singers. Note that of course, that this is not an invitation to vote either way.--Pan Gerwazy 03:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Tango arriving in Europe and America

I'm going to change that statement. I understand that the person that wrote the article might be American, meaning from the United States, so such a statement might have passed him or her by.

But Tango originated in 'America'. Just not 'North America'. :-) The dugout 14:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

A clear US bias; well done. Mariano(t/c) 07:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

i`m sorry to evry one but tango was originated in cuba

(unsigned comment by 68.164.201.212) 00:54, November 9, 2006

"tango was originated in cuba"

Grammar aside, some elements of Tango certainly came from Cuba, but the dance as a whole. --Antelope In Search Of Truth 03:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Need to find some noncommercial pictures

Hello. The pictures of stage dancers gives a misleading idea of tango. How about if we replace them with some informal pictures taken at milongas. There are several people in the US alone who have tango photo galleries; I bet we can get someone to release (GPDL of course) a nice picture or two for Wikipedia. I'll try to get around to it but if someone else gets on it first I won't be upset. Best, 64.48.158.122 06:00, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

REmove link

The link http://www.learning2dance.com/site/?main_page=page&id=11&productId=76 Should be removed. It says the following when you go to the site:

ACCESS DENIED.

You do not have the correct permission to view this lesson. Please subscribe, or purchase the lesson first. If you have purchased this lesson and you still see this error, please contact us. When contacting us please provide the link to this page, which lesson you were trying to view, and any other information you think would help us in troubleshooting this problem.

Thanks, L2D Team.

I belive only free resourses should be linked. Coolest-tech 23:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The Film Addams family values

The dance in this film was a balero not a tango as suggested.

76.1.45.212 21:31, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

In the film the dance scene was approached in the manner of stereotypical over-the-top tango such as when the aim is to approach or surpass a Valentino-like level of drama. (Valentino didn't really tango in Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse, but we call it that anyway...) Fast forward through years of Hollywood tango spoofs including Joe E. Brown with Jack Lemmon (in drag) in Some Like It Hot. The rose held in the mouth is a clue that you are in Over-The-Top-Land. Having an extreme dip in the dance is another clue. I vote to let the Addams Family Values film remain in the list of movies that have a tango dance scene, however campy and distorted. It's all in fun. Binksternet 20:17, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Significance of 'hesitate' in postcard?

Might the article or caption explain the significance of 'hesitate' in the pictured postcard? —Christian Campbell 08:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Could be a reference to the Hesitation Waltz, another popular dance from that period. Porfirio Landeros 03:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't have the Castle teaching materials in front of me but I think they used the word "hesitation" for the tango dance concept of pause or espera where you stop forward motion and execute a slight plié downward or a slight lift upward for a beat or two to wait through a musically appropriate moment (or to help navigate a crowded dance floor.) The hesitation was very unusual in any dance so it made tango that much more memorable to its new aficionados. No references, I'm afraid. Binksternet 04:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

It's a playful reference to the Hesitation Waltz. I have seen several cards from the series and the rhyme and meter are often awkward: "I know of a nice place / where there is a TANGO tea / and so we'll go there very soon / if you'll come along with me" Saxophobia (talk) 17:38, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Added Tango Movies

Hello, this page is quite busy with editing. I added two movies (distributed in Germany and therefore probably not on the page before even so the movies are in Spanish). Hope that's fine.

greetings, Christian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.59.100.13 (talk) 22:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Tangolates

I deleted the section about Tangolates; it seemed to me to be only tangentially linked to tango dance, and it has its own page. Binksternet (talk) 15:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Tangoterms.com

I brought this link back in as I believe it to be without commercial motive (so far) as well as a very straightforward and attractive primer on basic tango moves and the embrace. Prior to my adding it back in it was removed twice for being spammed to multiple Wiki pages. I don't think this link should be attached to any other tango article; it belongs here at the Tango (dance) page. Binksternet (talk) 04:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hey, just letting you know I removed a spot of vandalised text from this article. It was in the first line of the history section.137.99.77.14 (talk) 03:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

The articles Tango (dance) and Argentine Tango should be put together

I think the two articles Tango (dance) and Argentine Tango should be put together. They have too many topics in common. --Diego de Tenerife --Diego de Tenerife (talk) 14:35, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it works fine as it is. No change. Binksternet (talk) 03:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

The filmography need not be duplicated ?--195.137.93.171 (talk) 02:08, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

What a mess

Sorry, I don't have the time or the knowledge to fix it, but this article is a mess. For example, the paragraph beginning with: "The Tango Argentino is a partner dance, leaded by the man..." makes no sense whatsoever. See specifically:

"The plenty of figueres the tango argentino shows is just a rich combination of these elements. All combination, as complicated they might be, has to be leaded, when not Tango Argentino stops to be so, because it misses one of its most important princips."

It reads like a Babelfish translation. Anyone out there able to fix this? Rosetta1207 (talk) 14:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I just noticed this myself. Honestly, I can't make sense of it. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Y Done. The edit in question occurred on 06:01, 30 May 2010. I am reverting the entire section to the version prior to 30 May. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Translation: "The uncountable number of tango dance patterns show that tango is a dance made of combined elements, not just a set of long patterns that are memorized. Ultimately, all patterns in the dance, no matter how complicated, are lead and followed. Otherwise, it is merely choreography and memory, not Tango Argentino." Now, while that is true, try finding an authoritative source online or in a book that says that. It is usually something taught, not written down.

Maztec (talk) 09:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Costume?

Any word on the distinctive costume typically worn when tangoing (fedoras, waistcoats, long split skirts, dark colors, etc.)? ProhibitOnions ^(T) 12:47, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Ooh yes, and the shoes ! - Maybe they deserve their own page ?--195.137.93.171 (talk) 02:11, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Tango Categories/Styles

Where did these categories of tango even come from? This seems like a partial, but incomplete and poorly written list. The inclusion of "queer tango" as a separate style just puzzles the advanced dancer as the gender roles for everything but ballroom style eventually become blurred in the dance, except when a certain machismo is desired to be shown. A better source and identification of categories needs to be done. The styles listed in the opening paragraph are better than the list later in the article, which makes this even more confusing.

A better list would be as follows: Tango Argentino, Tango de Salon, Tango Vals, Tango Milonguero, Tango Milonga, Tango Canyengue, Tango Orillero, Club Tango, Tango Nuevo, Nuevo Milonguero, Neo Tango, Tango Colgada, Ballroom/American Tango, Fantasia/Hollywood Tango, Finnish Tango, and the list goes on. These could be summarized as Argentino, Salon, Vals, Milongeuro, Cayengue, Orillero, Club, Neuvo, Ballroom, Fantasia, Finnish.

Sample sources: http://www.tejastango.com/tango_styles.html http://www.allabouttango.com/styles.htm http://www.totango.net/styles.html http://dance.about.com/od/typesofdance/tp/Tango_Styles.htm http://www.virtuar.com/tango/articles/2005/tango_styles.htm

Maztec (talk) 09:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Naming Conventions

There should be a short section on naming conventions for a variety of common tango moves. For example: colgada, secada, gancho, volcada, boleo, enrosque, mordida, ocho, cadena, etc. Probably should stick with a few that people are more likely to see when watching tango ... moves that really stand out, like the secada, gancho, boleo, and ocho. Then refer to articles for the remainder. For example: http://www.layuega.com/terms.htm

Maztec (talk) 09:26, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

UNESCO

A pair of years ago, when the UNESCO declared Tango an Intangible Cultural Heritage, I rushed to this article to add the good news. I had not notice that there were two article, tango music and tango dance (this one). Perhaps the comment in the lead and the related category should be removed from here, and added to that other article? MBelgrano (talk) 17:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I think the UNESCO decision should be shared with all the tango articles on Wikipedia. Binksternet (talk) 18:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

What about the category? There should be a single Tango entry in it. MBelgrano (talk) 18:38, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't quite understand. Binksternet (talk) 18:44, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Ballroom tango - contradictory taxonomy

This section starts by contrasting "international" with "European" tango and subsequently "American" with "English" tango. Are these four different styles? There is a subtle implication that "international" = "English" and "American" = "European", which seems unlikely. Tesspub (talk) 09:18, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Unlikely, I agree. American is a head-snap, open-embrace, choreographed variation of English, European and International ballroom styles, the latter three being very closely related if not confusingly similar. Binksternet (talk) 01:21, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved per request. The precise relationship between the Tango and Argentine tango articles will have to be sorted out separately. Favonian (talk) 22:47, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Capitalization

Article uses "the tango" and "The Tango" with different capitalization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Layne Phillips (talk • contribs) 19:23, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

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Tango (dance) → Tango – The primary topic is the dance, of which the Argentine tango and Tango (music) are subtopics. This would also require moving Tango to Tango (disambiguation). Srnec (talk) 21:22, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Support - have noticed this awkward disamb in the past and glad someone has proposed to fix it. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:33, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
• Support. Clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:55, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
• Support Cambalachero (talk) 13:09, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
• Support as per above. LCS check (talk) 16:48, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
• Support. A minor viewpoint I have encountered is that tango music is as important as the dance form, that the music can stand on its own. However, the music's origin is the dance. Binksternet (talk) 16:58, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
• Support. The Tango music and Tango dance are inseparable, and should thus be presented under a single title "Tango" User:magazine1212 (talk) 18:58, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• Comment: I don't believe that's what has been proposed. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:07, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• Support as per above. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:07, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

• Is this really a subtopic of Argentine tango given that it's the "modern international dance form that evolved from the Argentine tango" (from the hatnote on that page)? --BDD (talk) 02:43, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

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I was intrigued by this sentence: "The word "tango" seems to have first been used in connection with the dance in the 1890s". I come from Russian music and it is being told in music circles that there are so many Russian Tangos because the Argentinian musicians on the World Expo in Paris (1889, when the Eiffel Tower was opened) played so many Tangos there which the Russians (Andreyev's Balalaika Orchester) liked and they brought that style home to Russia. Food for thought for someone who can read Cyrillic. Possibly someone thought, we must give it a name when we go and perfom in Paris? Almuth Hauptmann-Gurski 121.209.56.202 (talk) 03:41, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Edit External Links

I would replace the current external links: Festivals Worldwide Tango Events Worldwide Repository

By the following: www.tangopolix.com - Worldwide Tango Events Directory and Search Engine, including Tango Festivals, Marathons, Encuentros, Seminars, Workshops, etc

Tangopolix is much more comprehensive and complete than the previously mentioned links, and adapts to every screen resolution which makes it more accessible and easy to use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tangopolix (talk • contribs) 22:17, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Talk:María (tango)

See multiple move request. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:19, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

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Yoruba etymology?

What exactly is the semantic connection between the Yoruba thunder-god Shangó and the tango? The etymology section doesn't give any explanation, and there's no a priori reason to associate the two (unlike with the competing etymology hypotheses). — 69.120.64.15 (talk) 17:24, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Tango nuevo section should be improved?

IP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/77.218.44.30 just suggested "This last paragraph is a bit deceiving, and should be looked over by someone who is qualified." for the Tango nuevo section. Anyone interested? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RealLifeRobot (talk • contribs) 17:31, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

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