Talk:Persona non grata
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[edit]"...but use in non-diplomatic cases is, essentially, an affectation" I'm glad to see someone else able to use "affectation" in such a sensible and accurate way, without being accused of dread "NPOV".--Wetman 08:34, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
affectation or inaccurate usage.
[edit]"..but its use in non-diplomatic cases is essentially an inaccurate usage." It looks like the text has been edited to reflect this change since the last discussion. I agree with all that's been written but wish to add that, I thought and please correct me if I'm wrong, that the intent of Wikipedia was to expand upon definitions and include what we, the people (ha-ha), believe to be our shared definitions.
- I changed this to remove the POV. Persona non grata is just a Latin phrase, and people do use it to mean "unwelcome person" in a social context. I see nothing "inaccurate" about this. Say rather that the phrase has a special meaning in diplomacy that is not obvious from the direct translation of the Latin. Jeeves 17:50, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
There are references to "tit-for-tat" exchanges between the US and Venezuela and Georgia and Russia. Are there any references or more information available? Jmahood 22:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
- All of the incidents in that paragraph could use some elaboration or reference to other articles. Also, I am not sure who shares the current non-diplomatic usage "...is to say that he or she is ostracized, so as to be figuratively nonexistent". I certainly do not. I believe the common understanding is the same as the diplomatic usage, i.e. an unwelcome person Ndufva (talk) 09:52, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Persona non grata reserved to national governments?
[edit]Is Persona non grata reserved exclusively to a national government or could a disgruntled regional or local government expel a diplomat from their own reserved borders in such a way? 09:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
List
[edit]This article has become mostly a listing of people who governments have declared persona non grata. I have removed those entries. Would a list be a better solution? -- RP459 Talk/Contributions 16:48, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- I have started List of persons declared persona non grata -- RP459 Talk/Contributions 16:53, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
In the U. S., who has the power to declare PNG and who can be so declared?
[edit]In the United States, does the president have the power to declare someone persona non grata on his or her own, or does he or she need the approval of congress? Also, can anyone be prevented from entering the United States (persona non grata) or is it just limited to diplomats? Israel declared that German poet persona non grata and he was not a diplomat or a member of government. Thank you to anyone who can answer this question.HistoryBuff14 (talk) 14:29, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Nonsensical claim?
[edit]"In one particular military usage, Cavalry Officer James Hewitt was declared persona non grata at his former barracks after he had revealed that he had slept with Diana, Princess of Wales." Could anyone explain to me how James Hewitt slept with a woman who was born 3 years after his death? 86.93.227.7 (talk) 15:00, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
- Nevermind, upon rereading it I noticed I misread his date of birth as his date of death. 86.93.227.7 (talk) 15:01, 20 March 2017 (UTC)